Wow...I certainly appreciate your great work..Let my father bless you and every1 in this world with
eternal life
Vallal Adimai

Dear Sir,
You have done lot of reseaches...
and also nicely matching
Physics with Vallalar
Chemistry with Vallalar
Biology with Vallalar
and End With Scientific Research of Albert Einstein Brain.
Realy Good..
Please continue your articles...
Anbudan,

கருணைமிகு ஐயா,வந்தனம்,
அற்புதமான ஆய்வு,ஆழமான தன்மை,அனைவரும் அறிய அழகிய தமிழிலும் வெளியிடுவது சிறப்பாக இருக்கும். எவ்வளவு பெரிய விஞ்ஞானியாக இருந்தாலும் சுத்த சைவ உணவு உண்பவராக இருந்தால் மட்டுமே அவரால் காலங் கடந்த தன்மையை உருவாக்கி கொள்ள இயலும் என்பது வருங்காலத்தில் நிருபணமாகும்.நன்று தொடரட்டும் தங்கள் சன்மார்க்கபணி
வாழ்த்துக்கள்
என்றென்றும் சன்மார்க்க பணியில்,
ஜோதிமைந்தன்.சோ.பழநி

DEAR SIR,
VERY EXCELLENT AND VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO VALLALAR'S THEORY OF DEATHLESSNESS THROUGH SCIENTIFIC APPROACH. VALLALAR SAYS THAT THE ARUTHPERUMJOTHI EXISTS WHERE COMPASSION EXISTS NATURALLY. ( ENGAE KARUNAI IYARKAYIL ULATHO, ANGAE VILANGUM ARUTPERUMHOTHI ).HE REVEALED THAT THE GOD IS IN THE FORM OF THANIPERUM KARUNAI ( EXTREME COMPASSION ). WHEN ONE MIND DEVELOPS SUCH A COMPASSION IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY HAVE RESONANCE WITH THAT ARUTPERUMJOTHI.BY THAT WAY THE MIND ( SELF ) WILL GET COMMUNICATED OR COMMUNION WITH THAT ARUTPERUMJOTHI.THIS IS LIKE THE TECHNOLOGY ON WHICH OUR ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION SYSTEM OF RADIO,TV,INTERNET ETC WORKS.FURTHER RESEARCH ON THIS MATTER IS REQUIRED IN A SCIEITIFIC WAY.
K.VAIDYANATHAN,CHENNAI

Dear Ayya, Vanakkam Pala,
Thanks a lot for your scientific/sathvisaara posting. Yes, the so called spiritual world is too much shocked to hear,see and to try to know the Truth. That is their nature as they are so comfortable with their belief system, and used to god business and finally in shocking Death.What to do? Almighty only should bless them.

Very few of them try to reach the level of Eternal Sleep/Samadhi/Mukthi. That is it. But, they cannot go up more than this due to the virtue of their practice, which is purely based on the death-belief-system. Such belief system leads to superstition. They are not ready to wake up from their stubborn Samadhi through Sathvisaaram to attain their Sithi of Limitless Blissful Deathless Divine Life designed for all by The Almighty Grace.

On the other hand, Sanmaargam is the first in the world, which adopted Scientific Steps to see the Divine Nature Perfection, and thereby helping spiritual seekers evolve to a higher conscious levels and finally wake up forever to achieve deathlessness.

Sanmaargam is the only Sath Maargam in this world, which can also be called in our folks way as the Science of Spiritualism, where there is no room for doubts, but only for exploration, experimentation, experience, and then evolving to higher conscious level, and beyond more.

Both Mr.Maraimalai Adigal and Judge Balaramaih should know that they need to use controlled experiments, independent and dependent variables to test and conclude their hypothesis.Did they use them to investigate the Truth? Cooked paper copies may be valid in the ordinary human courts, but not in the real world of scientific investigations to seek and see the truth as it is.

All should know that a meter scale cannot measure our vast universe as the zillions of light year distance is very less than it's least fractional portion seen and known so far.

Arut Prakasa Vallalar's space contains countless universes.
May The Arut Perum Jyothi Andavar bless them evolve consciously to a higher platform to know this truth first!
Thanks again,
Arut Perum Jyothi,
Durai

Maraimalai adikal was a Tamil and Sanskrit scholar. Balaramiah was a retired judge who practised siddha medicine. They were known for their contributions only in these two fields. Both of them lived a wordly life enjoying a high standard of life and acquired assets and left them for their families. They were never known for their spiritual practice or attainment. I do not understand how they can judge a spiritual master's attainment.
Anyone who has read the other works of these two will understand that they have not read and understood all the works of Vallalar. The pity is that they have not even read the second part of Jeevakaarunya Ozhukkam which details the process of transfiguring the body. How can these two judge and pass any comments on Vallalar?
Thiru Sivajayakumar's article could have been best written without any reference to these two works.
Vallalarspace itself is giving unnecessary publicity for Balaramiah's work which met with strong opposition and was withdrawn from sales by his family.
I have read and reread many works of the above two and I value their contribution. However, I have no excuse for their ignorance and arrogance in passing judgements on matters which surpass human comprehension.
anbudan
Namasivayam

divine body is higher goal than mukhti as self realization or realization of nirvikalpa samadhi and our vallalar had achieved it n much more too.which can be easily defferentiated from states of consciousness written by vallalar as jeeva jagrata to shuddha siva turiyateeta.mukti as liberation by most of others are around nirmal turiya probably.but as per i understood shuddha dehams process start after para turiya so vallalars attainment is very much higher than mukhti.in my opinion there is no real mukti without deathlessness

Good article sir. Vallalar and all sithars has the power to transmute objects and transform themselves .

Absolutely correct.
with wishes,
Prabhu

excellent study, everyone must read.

The comparison of paths of Vallalar with Bhudda is very much appreciable. The theory of attaining Deathless Body in the Vallalar way ( Extreme compassion ) has to be analysed and proved through advanced Scieitific Equipments. The Mission and Vision of Vallalar should be addressed through International Media as was done in the case of "Mayan Calendar and the End of the World in December 2012".
k.vaidyanathan,chennai.

அருட்பெருஞ்சோதி அருட்பெருஞ்சோதி
தனிப்பெருங்கருணை அருட்பெருஞ்சோதி
What shall we say? the two great translators have done a wonderful job, namely Shri.J.Narayanasamy and Shri.Siva.Jayakumar.
Hats off to them. We as a Sanmarga Community sincerely pray the Almighty to shower his grace upon this work and support to constitute a team for translating the entire holy songs -Thiruvarutpa in to the english.
With thanks and regards
Samarasa Sudha Sanmarga Sangam
Karaikal

Inbutru Vazga,
Dear Kumresan & All,
Yes You are correct. Two great translators have started divine work to the Sanmarkka Community.
Our Thiruarutpa contains 6000 Songs + Jeevakarunya Section + Urainadai Section.
If we divide the work, and do the translation, will lead more perfect direction.
I believe planning , dividing and executing will complete the translation work successfuly.
Anbudan,
Karthikeyan

Please don't translate if you don''t have realized your self. Knowledge is literature is not required. I hope translator need spiritual experience.

I read this article few times. "Saint Vallalar has opened the Jeeva Karunya Ozhukkam " in the start of the article and emphasizing through out the article which I see as a key point or one should not miss this point. The topic itself a very interesting topic.

"the explicitness of god would never be manifest either within the grosser or within the subtler state of the human beings." - so this line reminded me Einstein's quote: Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another. so can we call it as aathi moolam or god particles or grace atoms? Just thought about the way Vallalar praising the lord in Thiruvadi Perumai Songs.

"there is no separate existence for the body as such without the soul. " - I see this point in Agaval lines too so is there any other saint ever said this before other than Vallalar?

Item #10 above, imprints is another great topic and curing is nothing but curing your soul as I understand. Most of the time we say a word Karma and we stop there but I guess it becomes imprints right?. Also I guess, some imprints goes to physical body and some goes to soul. The one which goes to soul determines body assignment I guess. I have this question always who owns imprints physical/astral/causal? What is the distribution mechanism of these imprints? I think it must be recorded in a magnetic field so that it can replay no matter where you go. Any further thoughts?

Vallalar asked us to go for Sath Visaaram ( Scientific Inquiry).But, we don't do it. Fortunately, the modern scientists follow up Vallalar's directions to figure out the secrets of divine nature better than the so called Sanmargees. That is why, the present science has found the clear answer for karma transit. They even gone unto Cloning, which provides the live evidences for Vallalar's scientific explanation on Anda Pinda Vilakkam in the Urai Nadai Vasana Paguthi. Now, cloning is banned due to new human fear; however, it is permitted only for the Jeevakarunya purposes. Now only, the whole world understands the importance of Jeevakarunyam.

We get correct answers and solutions for all our inquiry and confusion, when we stay firmly on both Sath Visaaram and Jeevakharunyam.



According to Vallalar, there is no difference between the law of nature and the law of Divine.So, let us go for law of nature. Thus, by law of nature, incarnation is nothing but the continuous manifestation of nature. Then, what is resurrection?. Well. It is nothing but the continuous efforts of human's story telling. Or they do not know how to explain the truth of reappearance of Jesus. Jesus might have been blessed by The Almighty, Arut Perum Jyothi Andavar to live forever in his Pranav Body.

Because,the love and compassion of Jesus for humanity is also unlimited.

Of course, Vallalar's compassion is beyond comparison. Because, Vallalar extents his love not only to human beings, but also all living beings, including plant kingdom. That why, Vallalar was highly blessed by Almighty to attain Mutheakha Sithees. Here, I would like to quote an evidence from Quran. According to Quran, the real body of Jesus was hidden by God to save Jesus alive. So, which is true? Bible or Quran ! Let them fight with their stories. We don't want stories of miracles. What we want is science of Truth.

And, what we need is soul based knowing to explain about the soul. Mind based knowing has its own limitation. Small readings of a scale can not be used to measure the distance between stars and galaxies. We need to use light year for it.

When our soul-knowing starts to blossom, we will see everything as it is. For that, we need to do continuous Sath Visaaram, by sincerely following the four basic principles of Jeevakharunyam.

God bless us.
Arut Perum Jyothi,
Durai

Good Explanation

Thanks for the reference quotes. Its interesting to note "ultimately the dead body is to be disintegrated into atomic and subatomic constituents across the space and again to be integrated from the subtler to the grosser in a cyclic existence" So I put to understand that is the thoola dhega is getting decomposed into subtler?, secondly is onward journey towards its karmic fulfillment=(subtler to grosser process?)OR(1st sense to 6th sense again/some level of cyclic existence by karma?) OR is this decomposed particles absolutely come back as a body after sometime hence burial is proposed? So the elapsed time between this process can we say the soul is hidden until it is raised back? Lastly, I heard many times about this dhega concept and have some understanding about it but I would like to know more on your views in line with sanmarga about thoola dega/sukma/kaarana may be in a separate article too.,

உயிர் உடலை எடுத்ததா அல்லது உடல் உயிரை எடுத்ததா என்பதிலிருந்து ஆய்வோமேயானால் இதற்கான விடையை காணக்கூடும் என்று கருதுகிறேன்.

ஐயா,
வள்ளல் பெருமானின் வாக்கிற்கு ஆயிரக்கணக்கானக் காரணங்கள் உண்டு, இறைவன் அளித்த தேகத்தை சுடுவதற்கு நமக்கென்ன சுதந்திரம் இருக்கிறது. மேலும் இறைவன் அளித்த தேகம் பிற ஜீவராசிகளுக்கு பயன்படும் வகையில் சமாதி செய்வது நல்லதாம். மேலும் மறுபடியும் பிறவி எடுக்கும் பொழுது இந்த உடலுக்கு வர வேண்டும் என்ற அவசியம் கிடையாது. உடல் ஒரு கருவியே.
மரணமில்லாப் பெருவாழ்வு என்று வருகிறப் பொழுது சன்மார்க்கத்தின் அளவுகோலாக இதனைப் பயன்படுத்துகிறார்கள். இதுவும் தவறான ஒன்றாம். இதுப்பற்றியக் கருத்துகள் வேண்டாம் என்று நினைக்கிறேன்.
நிற்க, சமாதி வற்புறுத்தலுக்கானப் பாடல்கள் யாவரும் அறிந்தது தான், இருப்பினும் கீழ்காணும் பாடல்கள் ஏன் சமாதி செய்ய வேண்டும் என்பதைக் கூறுகிறது.
அணங்கெழுபேர் ஓசையொடும் பறையோசை
பொங்கக்கோ ரணிகொண் டந்தோ
பிணங்கழுவி எடுத்துப்போய்ச் சுடுகின்றீர்
இனிச்சாகும் பிணங்க ளேநீர்
கணங்கழுகுண் டாலும்ஒரு பயனுண்டே
என்னபயன் கண்டீர் சுட்டே
பரன்அளிக்கும் தேகம்
இது சுடுவதப
ராதம்எனப் பகர்கின் றேன்நீர்
சிரம்நெளிக்கச் சுடுகின்றீர் செத்தவர்கள்
பற்பலரும் சித்த சாமி
உரனளிக்க எழுகின்ற திருநாள்வந்
தடுத்தனஈ துணர்ந்து நல்லோர்
வரனளிக்கப் புதைத்தநிலை காணீரோ
கண்கெட்ட மாட்டி னீரே.

somewhere I read in Jeeva Karunya Ozhukkam that burial of the dead is needed because the soul releases from the body slowly and it would take about 3 to 4days so criminating it kind of chasing out/killing again. I also remember something called Dhanunjaya vaayu takes 3days to go out from the body. so can someone clarify this

Dear Sirs,

It is true that Vallalar has preferred burial to other disposals of the dead like burning, proclaims the highest degree of compassion shown by the Saint even to the dead as he has shown to the withering but the living plants. Ooran Adigal has also reflected on the same issue in his much acclaimed book “The History Ramalinga Adigal”. In page 431 therein, he has answered by way of compromise that it may be due to the lingering of the Dhananjayan vayu within the dead body for 3 more days after death for burst opening the decomposing dead. Accordingly, the author has concluded that any immediate disposal by burning may amount to eviction of the vayu prematurely by force which in the opinion of Vallalar may qualify as murder.

Perhaps, the comments recorded by the founder of Vallalarspace also extending the same privilege of the vayu to the soul are also conditioned by the same thoughts.

It is an age of science. Whatever may the method of disposal, ultimately the dead body is to be disintegrated into atomic and subatomic constituents across the space and again to be integrated from the subtler to the grosser in a cyclic existence.


But the article is based on the specific commands given to disciples vide his letters dated 27.4.1870, 30.3.1871 and other references wherein his promise that the dead not only buried but also burnt would be brought back to life by the divine will, is unmistakable. In Jeeva karunya Ozhukkam, Vallalar has formulated as to how the soul after the death, mounts different bodies in its onward journey towards its karmic fulfillment.

There may be a thousand and one reasons for resorting to burial but the one of such reasons was definitely to bring the dead back to life. Therefore, the question was formulated on the ground of paradox between the concept of the immortal soul and the mortality of the body and raised for sat vichara as to how the previous bodies of the soul could be brought back to life after their complete/partial decomposition and with intent to accomplish what purpose.

With regards
sivajayakumar

Thanks for the reference quotes. Its interesting to note "ultimately the dead body is to be disintegrated into atomic and subatomic constituents across the space and again to be integrated from the subtler to the grosser in a cyclic existence"

So I put to understand that is the thoola dhega is getting decomposed into subtler?, secondly is onward journey towards its karmic fulfillment=(subtler to grosser process?)OR(1st sense to 6th sense again/some level of cyclic existence by karma?) OR is this decomposed particles absolutely come back as a body after sometime hence burial is proposed? So the elapsed time between this process can we say the soul is hidden until it is raised back?

Lastly, I heard many times about this dhega concept and have some understanding about it but I would like to know more on your views in line with sanmarga about thoola dega/sukma/kaarana may be in a separate article too.,

Dear Blessed souls!
The mission of Saint Vallalar was unique. While disparity of the Caste, Religion, Race and Language dismantled the people from oneness, Saint Ramalinga in the 19th century introduced and established a new sanmarga path for uniting all those people.
Respected Shri.Sivajayakumar, author of this article has perfectly done his commendable job for propagating vallalars mission into the world. Further, the author quoted how the creator of the entire world has accompanied with Saint Vallalar for establishing a new sanmarga way.
சுதந்தரமதான துலகில்
வன்பெலாம் நீக்கி நல்வழியெலாம் ஆக்கி மெய்
வாழ்வெலாம் பெற்றுமிகவும்
மன்னுயிர் எலாம் களித் திட நினைத்தனை உன்றன்
மன நினைப்பின்படிக்கே
அன்ப நீ பெறுக உலவாது நீடூழி விளை
யாடுக அருட்சோதியாம்
ஆட்சிதந்தோம் உனைக் கைவிடோம் கைவிடோம்
ஆணைநம் ஆணைஎன்றே
All the songs which are taken into reference amply demonstrate that how Saint Vallalar and the Almighty were able to show the right way to the people.
To highlight the Immortality, the author has taken wonderful words of saint vallalar.
பூதமுத லாயபல கருவிகள் அனைத்தும்என்
புகல்வழிப் பணிகள்கேட்பப்
பொய்படாச் சத்திகள் அனந்தகோ டிகளும்மெய்ப்
பொருள்கண்ட சத்தர்பலரும்
ஏதமற என்னுளம் நினைத்தவை நினைத்தாங்
கிசைந்தெடுத் துதவஎன்றும்
இறவாத பெருநிலையில் இணைசொலா இன்புற்
றிரு
க்கஎனை வைத்தகுருவே.
It is time; every one should know truth of the immortality and work towards oneness. The mere artificial thought and work shall not offer any significant result as union with God. Today, all the corporate meditation centres are doing mere practice like union with God by collecting huge amount of money from the disciples as to impart super consciousness through meditation. What a business they are doing now!
with regards
K.Kumaresan

அன்புள்ள ஐயா வந்தனம், தாங்கள் திரு அருட்பாவை ஆய்வு செய்து வருகிறீர்கள். மிக்க மகிழ்ச்சி. வள்ளலார் மரணமிலாப் பெருவாழ்வு என்று பேசினார்.வேறு யாரும் அவ்வாறு பேசியதாகத் தெரியவில்லை. ஒரு பாடலில் தேகம் எப்போதும் சிதையாத வண்ணம்.....என்றும் இன்னொரு பாடலில் காற்றாலே புவியாலே, ககனமதனாலே
.......என்றும் அழியாதே விளங்கும் மெய் அளித்தான் என்றும்,ஞான தேகம் தோன்றியும் தோன்றாமலும் இருக்கும் என்றும் பாடியுள்ளார்.நான் இவற்றை எல்லாம் படித்ததில் வள்ளலார் இன்றும் தன் தேகத்துடந்தான் இருக்கின்றார் என்று உறுதியாக நம்புகிறேன்.தங்கள் கருத்தை அறிய ஆவலுடன் இருக்கின்றேன். வந்தனம் நன்றி முபா

Great Article. Please let me know, According to Vallalar what happens to soul after death? How long does it take before it takes the next body? What happens in between